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Fieldnotes from the Interface  by Scott Meit, Psy.D. and Van Yasek, Ph.D.

Learning Objectives
  • Learn how psychologists are integrated into the medical setting.


  • Learn important tactics to bridge the gap between psychology and medicine.


The transition from a primarily applied psychological setting to a medical setting can be difficult, especially for psychologists not skilled in the interface. Combining more than 25 years of experience in the fields of psychology and medicine, Scott Meit, Psy.D. and Van Yasek, Ph.D. (medical anthropology) draw on their direct experience and offer anthropological fieldnotes for psychologists working in the interface of psychology and medicine.*

SEEING

Physicians and psychologists see the world/patient through a different lens; neither is implicitly correct or incorrect.

TIME

The time urgency of physicians can lead to bad practices – the infamous hallway consult or elevator talk. You think that you will never do it. Don’t!

EXPECTATIONS

Remember, physicians and psychologists often differ widely regarding expectations of time, paradigm of care, conceptualizations and models, language and jargon, and view of the parameters of the doctor-patient relationship.

CHARTING

Be mindful of how you chart. Some psychologists entirely integrate psychological notes with physician notes, some have a special section in the medical record and others keep separate charts. Be sure your patient and your board know how you chart, that your rationale is well-defined, and that your patient’s consent is informed.

SUPER SLEUTH MINDSET

Adopt the mindset of a super sleuth. In your clinical evaluation, first investigate the medical record. Particularly in medical residencies where continuity is often broken every three years, the mystery of the patient’s current difficulty has been discovered before. Often, it’s in there. The average primary care office visit is less than 15 minutes. Primary care MDs often only look at the last note and maybe one or two before that. Be a historian.

COMMUNICATION

MDs want feedback; communication is essential. Primary care physicians see the patient as theirs and you as a consultant. In all other referrals to cardiology, radiology, and dermatology, they expect and do get feedback and change their referral patterns when they do not. Make sure your working arrangement facilitates communication, such as securing releases, having team meetings, and being present at morning report.

BREVITY

Be succinct in feedback and answers. Physicians, in their time urgency, will commonly activate a 60- second computer chip. If they offered a referral question, what is your answer? Findings, differential diagnosis, recommendations, treatment plan - that’s all your medical colleagues want. Save the intriguing narratives for your scholarly initiatives.

PLAYING YOUR GAME

In your interactions, be particularly careful not to be tempted into playing “look what you missed.” While family physicians may not know the first thing about families, may embrace simplistic thinking, and believe biology is God (McDaniel & Campbell, 1986), don’t you be tempted to go there.

MEDICAL LANGUAGE

Particularly if you’re new to the interface with medicine, by all means, get a good medical dictionary. If you learn the language, there will be fewer misunderstandings and you will be accepted. Psychologists working in medical settings should have at least a rudimentary understanding of medical terminology, otherwise significant barriers to effective collaboration may be encountered.

NETWORK

Seek out a network of psychologists who likewise practice at the interface. They are your peers. Remember, isolation tempts jeopardy in clinical outcomes, liability, and job satisfaction.

COLLEAGUES OR PEERS

Hopefully MDs are your colleagues. They are not your peers. Do not seek from a physician what only a psychologist might provide, such as an opinion on a complex ethical issue. Your ethical principles and standards of practice are not theirs.

ACCOMMODATE OR SACRIFICE

Anthropologists have long recognized that it is wise to “do as the Romans do” while knowing that they will always remain the outsider. Being in no-man’s land provides creative tension needed to see beyond the bounds imposed by one’s discipline or work routine. This is a useful, if sometimes uncomfortable, place to be. Physician culture is conservative and views change agents as a threat to tradition. They will change very little if at all to accommodate you. You must learn how to accommodate them without sacrificing personal and
professional integrity.

ROLE DEFINITION

If you hold yourself aloof from the physician culture in an attempt to maintain illusory purity, you do yourself no favors. Likewise, it serves no purpose, and becomes at some point unethical, to go native. You are not as they are, and over-zealous efforts to get along will weaken you as a psychologist.

AREAS OF EXPERTISE

Expertise and competence must be recognized. A primary care health psychologist is not necessarily skilled in every procedure. For example, you may not be an expert on eating disorders or pre-surgical screening. With some frequency, you will be asked to perform procedures beyond your ken. Do as the primary care physician would. Assess and refer or simply advocate for referral right away to the appropriate specialist.

PHYSICIAN OR PSYCHOLOGIST

The system will often want to treat you as a physician when it appears beneficial and remind you that you arenot one when certain incentive structures are discussed. In parallel, you will want to be a physician when these incentives are discussed, and probably will remind others that you are not a physician when call schedules or higher parking rates for MDs are discussed. You can’t have it both ways.

THE WHITE COAT

The halls of medicine are filled with hierarchy and pecking order. Medical students wear short white coats, residents and attending physicians long white coats, and you probably don’t wear one at all. You will resent being referred to as an allied health professional, but you are a participant observer to this melee. Even so, you will never be fully integrated. Note: Having a white coat can be quite practical and keep you from getting collared by the head nurse if you take consults to medical beds in the hospital.

DUAL RELATIONSHIPS

If in a residency program, you will almost certainly be asked at one time or another to assess or otherwise provide professional services to a troubled resident. Physicians are often comfortable in performing an invasive medical exam on a professional and then washing their hands to attend an administrative meeting with that same person. Many seem to have difficulty understanding what psychologists mean by dual relationships and boundaries. Sometimes it may be inferred that you’re prudish; don’t buy in to that. To informally offer resources on EAP services or area providers is quite another story and an appropriate service.

THICK SKIN

If you are teaching medical students or residents, thicken your skin. It is far safer for medical trainees to object to your instruction as opposed to the teachings of the attending physician that they aspire to emulate. Get used to it.

DUE CREDIT

In scholarly or other indices of productivity, make sure that you document your contributions and that you are properly credited. Halls of medicine, MD or no MD, credit where credit is due.

*Anthropological Fieldnotes are a time-honored method of recording data from participant observation and constitute the best way to record daily experiences, providing a concrete record of events-in-time, saving us from the revisionist and purely fabricating tendencies of memory.

REFERENCE

McDaniel, S.H., & Campbell, T.L., (1986) Physicians and family therapists: The risk of collaboration. Family Systems Medicine, 4 (1), 4-8.

AUTHORS

Scott Meit, Psy.D., Director, Behavioral Science Education and Associate Professor, Family Medicine, WV University School of Medicine, Morgantown, WV; Member, APA Committee on Rural Health; APA Council of Representatives.

Van Yasek, Ph.D., Research Asst. Professor, Family Medicine, WV University School of Medicine, Morgantown, WV.

To request additional references, resources, and a copy of the complete article, please contact Dr. Meit at meits@rcbhsc.wvu.edu

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